Responses (23/12/08)

Forza_schumi:

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In the meanwhile, I got to know a little more about Apple from a colleague who is an ex-Apple employee! wink.gif So, now I know a little from the horse's mouth, and will write down a part of it! [I am not supposed to disclose most of the things, hence, you have no choice but to accept my reasoning for them! smile.gif]

couldnt resist : LOL.

anyway, i wanted to resist from taking part in this discussion, but

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Do you know that Macs are not just featured as the computers of choice for the stars in the Hollywood movies, but are actually the most commonly used hardware for production and post-production, including mixing as well as for creation of special effects!

Interesting fact, can you get me a citation on that ?

KC:

adroit,

do you write code and develop on both Mac and Windows?

Dude:

This thread is growing interesting with every post

QUOTE (adroit_91 @ Dec 22 2008, 02:17 PM)
Hi, was on travel for a while, hence, couldn't update the thread!

Welcome Back! I was actually missing a reply to this thread; maybe this could be the reason why I buy a Mac in the future

QUOTE (adroit_91 @ Dec 22 2008, 02:17 PM)
Also, I don't understand your point about a Linux user switching from Mac to Linux! ...

Oh, that was your point. But then again, a Mac is just another variant of BSD which is a variant of Unix. Guess a mac just provides more eye candy for Linux fans than a plain old Ubuntu machine with Gnome.

QUOTE (adroit_91 @ Dec 22 2008, 02:17 PM)
Now, from someone else's account:
There have been many decisions on adopting standards, and creating some, post Jobs' return. Hence, the adoption of MP3s, x86, 3G for the iPhone and Windows compatibility, because what 80% of the people in the world use, becomes a standard unto itself! Before that, it wasn't like that, and although they developed upto 2-3 different OSes, none of them matched the technology from Next that Jobs brought along with him! ...

I am not sure what this suggests. That Apple had a great OS in the beginning are are dumbing it down to make it more usable? Also IMHO even things like your Zune must have gone through extensive prototyping, not sure what Apple does different here except perhaps market their products a bit differently. I personally think that iPod is an expensive gadget for its features, maybe it is just that aluminum look that sells.

QUOTE (adroit_91 @ Dec 22 2008, 02:17 PM)
... Do you know that Macs are not just featured as the computers of choice for the stars in the Hollywood movies, but are actually the most commonly used hardware for production and post-production, including mixing as well as for creation of special effects! Do you know why? Because, with Next, Jobs had developed technology which was supposed to make use of multi-core and multi-processor designs, and not get overwhelmed by them...

Hmmm, in an industry where it is difficult for people to know what direction things will go (see Bluray vs HDDVD) it is surprising to see Jobs actually 'predicting' multi core computing which has been there once since 3 years is it? Of course Multiprocessors had been there before that but I would have been surprised if anyone thought about making a personal computing (read Mac too) system using that for mass markets.

QUOTE (adroit_91 @ Dec 22 2008, 02:17 PM)
I will spend my life driving a Maruti or a Hyundai, and upgrade to Honda maybe once! But, in the words of my own colleague, who is definitely not a Mac bigot:
"I can afford a Mac but I can’t afford a BMW...or I would buy one of those, too. It’s just a better product."

Better or not, I look at the price/feature or performance factor before settling on anything. I may get a supercomputer for 1 Million but then the factor is too skewed for me to go for that.

Rooney:

Alright. Some of the points being made in the thread completely go over my head for the time being. But I would like to make one very significant observation.

Apple sells you Hardware + Software. And charges you MASSIVEly for that.

MSFT offers you only software. Same for Linux. At way way way less cost or free. One can buy the hardware at his/her own convenience.

So, how can we compare both the packages ? Apple gives you the entire suite which works together and burns a hole in your pocket whereas others are only providing you a certain fraction of it (i.e.S/W) at little cost or free.

And yes, did anyone mention the real cost of iPhone. Its massively high. (Don't count 200$ for USA as real cost..add the subscription plan and for India, was it 799$ ? )

So, tbh, if I have to spend that much money, I would do it on some FREAK hardware and run my fav Linux on it (WITH MacOS theme if I am such a fan of its looks) at much lesser cost than a Mac. And by freak, I mean REAL freak.

Cliffs : Mac is a great product but the cost at which we get it is not justified in my opinion. There are amazing alternatives at lesser cost.